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I speak about the concept of a constitutional amendment on the environment with former guests on the This Sustainable Life podcast:

• Michael Herz: Constitutional scholar and former lawyer for the Environmental Defense Fund (Michael's podcast episodes)
• James Oakes: US historian, focusing on the Revolutionary War to Reconstruction (James's podcast episodes)

We approach the concept from many perspectives, especially comparing it with the Thirteenth Amendment.

This is my first conversation with two experts on a topic I'm just starting to learn about based on very detailed fields, including law, history, abolitionism, and politics. I have to start somewhere. We recorded this conversation months ago and I've learned tremendously since.

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