Agentic AI and Identity Sprawl

In this episode of Data Security Decoded, join host Caleb Tolin as he welcomes back Joe Hladik, Head of Rubrik Zero Labs, to unpack the findings from their new report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats, Joe breaks down how the explosion of non-human identities, from API keys to AI agents, is rewriting the threat landscape and forcing security leaders to rethink the perimeter itself.

He explains why identity resilience is the new foundation of cyber defense, how to prioritize recovery when every system matters, and what steps teams can take now to stay ahead of emerging agentic AI-driven attacks.

What You'll Learn:

• Why identity has replaced the network as the modern security perimeter

• How non-human identities outnumber humans 82 to 1, and what that means for control and monitoring

• Practical steps to build recovery plans around dependency mapping and minimal viable operations

• Why ransom payments remain high and how better resilience planning can reverse that trend

• How threat actors exploit backup systems to gain total business leverage

• What agentic AI really means for cyber defense and how to prepare for its impact

The episode offers a clear framework for leaders to transform identity resilience from a reactive measure into a proactive pillar of enterprise security.

Episode Highlights:

[05:13] The 82:1 Ratio: Why Non-Human Identities Now Define Risk

[07:03] Prioritizing Recovery: Building for Minimal Viable Operations

[10:53] Declining Recovery Confidence and the Rise of Ransom Payments

[15:46] Backups Under Attack: How Threat Actors Seize Business Control

[16:32] Agentic AI and the Shifting Nature of Cyber Threats

[25:32] What Defenders Can Do Now to Build Identity Resilience

Episode Resources

Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn

Joe Hladik on LinkedIn

Rubrik Zero Labs report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats