The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast CNLP 758 | Does Simple Church Still Work? Eric Geiger on What Scales and Why Older Church Leaders Need to Die to Themselves
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Oct 7, 2025 
Eric Geiger, senior pastor of Mariners Church and bestselling author of 'Simple Church,' shares powerful insights on effective church leadership. He discusses the pitfalls of complexity and the importance of simplicity in growth. Geiger emphasizes the necessity for older leaders to set aside egos for the next generation's benefit. He highlights the value of engaging Scripture and the need for purposeful leadership development. Humor and humility shine through as he details adapting to change, the impact of COVID-19, and fostering community among young adults.
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Scripture Is The Keystone Discipline
- Engaging Scripture regularly is the keystone spiritual discipline that raises every other spiritual practice.
- Bible engagement predicts increases in serving, giving, repentance, evangelism, and hospitality.
How Mariners Called Eric
- Eric sensed a burden for Southern California while speaking at a conference and immediately researched Mariners Church when contacted about the role.
- He delayed initial contact out of loyalty to Tom Rainer before entering a long, thoughtful search process that led to his hire.
A Predecessor Who Gave Runway
- Kenton B. Shore deliberately removed himself from leadership spaces to give Eric runway during the transition.
- Kenton stayed supportive, coached privately, and remains involved as Pastor Emeritus while honoring Eric's authority.
