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Texas Extra: It’s Roosevelt vs. Lindbergh in ‘America First’

Sep 28, 2024
H.W. Brands, a distinguished historian from UT-Austin, dives into his latest book exploring the clash between Franklin Roosevelt and Charles Lindbergh during a pivotal time in American history. The conversation highlights Roosevelt's gradual shift to embrace global responsibilities amid rising isolationist sentiments. Brands also unpacks Lindbergh's complex legacy, revealing his achievements alongside troubling views, particularly on anti-Semitism. The discussion draws parallels between historical foreign policy debates and today's political landscape, making it both relevant and provocative.
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  • The podcast explores the stark contrast between Roosevelt's interventionist stance and Lindbergh's isolationist philosophy during the World War II era.
  • It highlights how the 'America First' slogan has evolved from Lindbergh's anti-intervention rhetoric to contemporary debates about U.S. foreign policy interests.

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The Debate on U.S. Participation in World War II

The American public faced a significant divide over involvement in World War II, with President Franklin Roosevelt advocating for U.S. engagement while many citizens, influenced by the aftermath of World War I and the Great Depression, preferred isolationism. Roosevelt believed that America's involvement was crucial for the nation’s future and its global standing, yet he largely refrained from publicly pushing this agenda until the war escalated. Conversely, aviation hero Charles Lindbergh emerged as a prominent voice against intervention, fostering a large following that shared his sentiments and argued for a focus on domestic issues over European conflicts. Lindbergh's influence was underscored by his status as a national icon, who, though initially supportive of Roosevelt’s policies, later became disillusioned by what he perceived as a push to involve the U.S. in European wars.

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