2 Pages with MBS cover image

2 Pages with MBS

36. How to Practice Understanding: Pamay Bassey, CLO Kraft Heinz x ‘The War of Art’

Aug 12, 2021
33:58

Most of us understand why diversity and inclusion matters, in theory. But, how do you go from theory to practice? How do you understand and then champion different perspectives, experiences, and lives? How do you truly learn that? Pamay Bassey is someone who may have answers to these questions. She’s the Chief Learning and Diversity Officer for the Kraft Heinz Company. Pamay also is Chief Experience Officer at My 52 Weeks of Worship, a project focusing on interfaith diversity, communication, and understanding. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  


Pamay reads two pages from ‘The War of Art’ by Steven Pressfield. [reading begins at 14:30] 


Hear us talk about:

Battling resistance. [19:48] | “Learning anything is actually difficult.” [22:40] | Overcoming resistance at scale: “The idea of having a practice or habit is the antidote.” [23:53] | Making an impact in a new place: “The foundation is culture.” [26:02]


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