

Emma Ashford, "First Among Equals: U. S. Foreign Policy in a Multipolar World" (Yale UP, 2025)
Oct 5, 2025
Emma Ashford, a leading foreign policy scholar and author of 'First Among Equals,' delves into the shifting landscape of U.S. foreign policy. She critiques the failed triumphalism of the past three decades and advocates for a realist approach that prioritizes pragmatic interests. Ashford discusses the implications of a multipolar world, the dynamics between the U.S. and China, and the necessity of recalibrating alliances and military presence. Her insights challenge conventional wisdom and offer a roadmap for policymakers navigating a new geopolitical reality.
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Failure Of Transformative Posture
- The post-1991 unipolar moment produced repeated, transformative U.S. efforts to reshape the world that ultimately failed.
- These crusading policies fostered public and elite fatigue with expansive American projects abroad.
2016 Debate As A Turning Marker
- Emma Ashford recalls Donald Trump's 2016 primary debate line calling the Iraq war a mistake as a visible marker of changing opinion.
- She uses that episode to show elite consensus shifted slowly and accelerated after 2016.
Unbalanced Multipolarity Matters
- The emerging system is an unbalanced multipolarity with the U.S. and China out ahead and many capable second-tier regional powers.
- These middle powers will be crucial partners and constraints on U.S. policy, not mere followers.