John Spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at the Modern War Institute and host of the Urban Warfare Project, joins the show to talk about urban combat and how Israel is fighting an unprecedented war against Hamas with justice and humanity.

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• 01:50 Introduction

• 02:08 Fighting and teaching

• 09:31 Changes in urban warfare

• 17:14 Terrain still matters

• 21:54 Israel’s unprecedented war

• 26:11 Learning on the ground

• 33:24 Genocide

• 43:57 The battle of Manila

• 49:41 Suffering is the strategic aim

• 51:04 Tunnels

• 55:51 Outthinking the enemy

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