This week I’m joined by journalist David Roth of Defector. It’s one of my favourite episodes - and I think you’ll get a lot out of it even if you’re not a sports fan.

We spoke about the morality of watching the NFL, how things could get significantly worse, and what the hell is going on with Las Vegas’ baseball situation.

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