The Joe Rogan Experience

#2076 - Aza Raskin & Tristan Harris

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Dec 19, 2023
Aza Raskin, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, and Tristan Harris, its other co-founder and a tech ethicist, tackle the ethical implications of AI and technology. They discuss the fascinating breakthroughs in decoding whale and dolphin communication through AI while critiquing the addictive nature of tech-driven algorithms. The conversation also highlights the urgent need for regulations around AI's rapid advancement and its impacts on society, democracy, and children, stressing the importance of responsible governance.
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INSIGHT

Narrow Optimization

  • Aza Raskin and Tristan Harris argue that societal problems stem from narrow optimization.
  • Maximizing for narrow goals like GDP or engagement leads to disconnection and unintended consequences.
ANECDOTE

Limited Impact of "The Social Dilemma"

  • Despite reaching a vast audience, "The Social Dilemma" didn't significantly shift social media companies.
  • Their entrenchment in society, politics, and the economy made change difficult.
ANECDOTE

Inventing Infinite Scroll

  • Aza Raskin reflects on inventing infinite scroll, initially for blog posts and search results.
  • He was unaware of its potential misuse in social media's attention economy.
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