

Not-So-Secure Boot - Rob Allen - PSW #868
Apr 3, 2025
Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer at ThreatLocker, dives into the intersection of AI and cybersecurity. He discusses the evolving landscape of security products, emphasizing the need for human oversight amid AI’s hype. Critiquing superficial security practices, he addresses vulnerabilities in Secure Boot and the implications of Microsoft's access features. The conversation also explores the dual-use of AI in cybersecurity, ethical considerations in hacking, and innovative attack methods, shedding light on a critical need for transparency in managing security vulnerabilities.
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AI's True Value in Cybersecurity
- AI's value lies in improving cybersecurity products, not just marketing hype.
- It should save time and aid decisions without fully automating critical judgments where errors can be catastrophic.
AI Empowers Attackers Too
- AI tools lower the bar for attackers by making coding exploits widely accessible.
- Built-in AI safeguards mostly guard inputs, which attackers can bypass with cleverly phrased queries.
Leverage AI for Data Collation
- Use LLMs to aggregate and collate data, reducing analyst overload.
- Treat AI as a conversational partner to organize thoughts, not as a decision-maker.