We've reached the seventh chapter in this interstellar musical expedition of the new Smashing Pumpkins album ATUM. This week, join us for the world premiere of "Steps In Time" as we are joined by the sibling recording artist duo (and producers of the new show "High School" on Amazon) of Tegan & Sara. Also, we will discuss the background of the song and the music video for the Smashing Pumpkins classic track, "Today"...all this and so much more, this week, on Thirty Three.

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