Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Refugees, Fossil Fuels & the fate of Western Civilisation

Nov 27, 2025
Tony Abbott, the 28th Prime Minister of Australia, delves into thorny issues like asylum-seeker policies and climate change. He discusses his controversial boat-turnback strategy and its implications for immigration and social cohesion. Abbott also critiques the narrative around Australia’s historical injustices, emphasizing a balanced view of Indigenous rights and national identity. Navigating the perils of populism, he advocates for the foundational role of Christianity in Western values, all while expressing cautious optimism about the future of democracy.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Books
Transcript
Episode notes
INSIGHT

Balanced View Of Australia's History

  • Tony Abbott argues Australia has both shameful and admirable chapters that are often forgotten.
  • He wants a balanced history that celebrates democratic innovations as well as acknowledges wrongs.
ANECDOTE

Myall Creek Trials Showing Early Justice

  • Abbott recounts the Myall Creek aftermath where perpetrators were tried and seven hanged.
  • He uses the episode to show early Australian commitment to equality before the law.
INSIGHT

Three Pillars Of Australian Identity

  • Abbott frames modern Australia as three pillars: Indigenous heritage, British foundation, immigrant character.
  • He argues all three must be acknowledged for a coherent national identity.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app