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This week's episode is hosted by David Spark, producer of CISO Series and Jerich Beason, CISO, WM. Joining them on stage is Jack Leidecker, CISO, Gong. This episode was recorded live at HOU SEC CON 2025.

In this episode:

The open source sustainability problem
AI levels the geopolitical playing field
Cutting through AI vendor hype
Why the fundamentals still hurt

Thanks to Erik Bloch from Illumio for providing our "What's Worse" scenario.

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