A sprawling, expansive chat with two artists who embody a DIY ethos interconnected with spirituality and poetry.

Two chats with musician, sculptor Lonnie Holley and poet Moor Mother (Camae Awaye) chatting through their practices, converging across their innovative use of materials, unique ways of collaborating and principled resistance. A conversation to sink deep into, with both Lonnie and Camae reminding us that beauty is in our toolkit for the revolution.

You can catch them both live, alongside free jazz ensemble Irreversible Entanglements, at the Opera House on February 26, more details here.

This episode was co-hosted and co-produced by Alicia Zhao & Shareeka Helaluddin

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#147 Poetic & Material Alchemy (with Moor Mother & Lonnie Holley)