rich & REGULAR with Kiersten and Julien Saunders Ep 228: ‘Retire Often’ with Jillian Johnsrud | Why your next break should be a mini-retirement
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Sep 15, 2025 
Jillian Johnsrud, a writer and coach, urges us to rethink retirement in her new book Retire Often. Instead of waiting decades, she advocates for taking intentional mini-retirements every few years. Jillian explains how just one month off can transform your life, while her '6.5% rule' offers a new budgeting perspective for breaks. She discusses burnout, emphasizing the importance of recovery, and shares how breaks can actually enhance career growth. Join her in discovering how these pauses can lead to richer life experiences.
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Retirement As A Repeating Rhythm
- Retirement can be mixed with career instead of being a single end event.
- Mini retirements let you pivot between work and long stretches of meaningful nonwork across life.
Script The Conversation With Your Boss
- Prepare exact scripts and timing before asking your employer for a break.
- Address specific fears and objections so the negotiation becomes practical and credible.
Use A Month As The Minimum Dose
- Take a month as the minimum effective dose for a meaningful break.
- A month lets you mentally disconnect and do experiences that don't fit into short weekends.
