On the road to VOUSCon, Rich sat down with worship leader and recording artist John Wilds for a powerful conversation about presence, purity, and purpose.

John has led worship around the world—but his story starts far from the stage. Raised by a single mother, he experienced homelessness, church hurt, and deep rejection. At 17, he cried out to God—and one encounter changed everything.

They talk about what it means to truly be led by the Spirit, how to protect your heart when your platform grows, and why everything comes down to your posture before God.

John shares the weight of discipleship, the danger of performance, and how to keep your awe in a world that rewards filters over faith.

“The ultimate goal is not that God uses me—it’s that God has me.”

This episode is a powerful reminder that restoration begins with surrender.

Don’t miss this one—watch the full episode now. 🔗

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Ep 61 — John Wilds: What One Encounter with God Can Do — Rich Wilkerson Jr.