The hosts dive into the outrage surrounding AI models trained on film and TV dialogues, discussing the emotional and ethical fallout for writers. They explore the generational challenges in Hollywood, touching on ambition and financial struggles of younger creatives. The implications of copyright in the age of AI are examined, emphasizing ownership and legal struggles. Listeners are engaged with fascinating genre distinctions between horror and thrillers, and the allure of convenience in food parallels AI content consumption. Expect a mix of humor and thoughtful insights!
The use of AI models trained on film and TV dialogue raises significant ethical and legal concerns about creative ownership and writers' rights.
Younger writers face unique challenges in Hollywood due to financial burdens like student loans, impacting their career ambitions and judgments from peers.
The podcast clarifies the distinctions between horror and thriller genres, emphasizing how each evokes different emotional responses and audience expectations.
Deep dives
The Impact of AI on Screenwriting
Many of the largest AI models have been trained using a vast amount of film and television dialogue, leading to a stir among writers. This training data includes not only popular films but also lesser-known TV shows, effectively raising concerns about the potential theft of creative work. Writers express a mix of anger and resignation, fearing that AI could serve as a replacement for human creativity. The discussion highlights the need for writers to consider the ethical and legal implications surrounding the use of AI-generated content within the industry.
Generational Perspectives on Ambition in Hollywood
A listener shared insights on how student loans have affected career trajectories for younger generations in Hollywood, suggesting that financial burdens can hinder ambition. There is a sense of frustration among younger writers who feel judged for their perceived lack of ambition, while they contend that financial circumstances often dictate their professional paths. The conversation reveals that many young professionals are eager to break into the industry but face challenges not encountered by previous generations. This generational divide underscores the complexities of pursuing creativity and success in an evolving industry landscape.
Defining Genre: Thriller vs. Horror
The podcast revisits the distinctions between thriller and horror genres, providing a detailed explanation of how these two types of storytelling differ. While thrillers often evoke adrenaline and physical peril, horror films delve into the deeper fear of losing one’s humanity or soul. Examples such as the slasher subgenre and films like 'Alien' illustrate the subtleties in audience perception and emotional resonance between the genres. This discussion serves to clarify how genre conventions influence both audience expectations and writer intentions.
Navigating Writer Contracts in Non-Union Projects
A listener navigates the complexities of securing a fair contract for their first assignment, emphasizing the lack of union protections in a non-union environment. The importance of defining financial terms clearly is highlighted, particularly with projects involving well-known intellectual property. Producers often rely on writers to establish their payment and residual expectations, making it vital for writers to know their worth. This underscores the necessity for writers to approach contract negotiations equipped with information and an understanding of industry standards.
The Continuing Evolution of Storytelling in the Digital Age
The podcast concludes with a reflective discussion on the broader implications of technology, such as AI, on storytelling and the creative process. As technology advances, there is concern about how it will shape narratives and the role of human writers in the industry. Despite the potential benefits of AI in assisting with dialogue and structure, there is a risk that it could dilute the unique voices and perspectives that human writers bring to projects. This highlights the ongoing need for advocates of human creativity to engage with these changes while protecting the integrity of storytelling.
Many of the biggest AI models have been trained on film and TV dialogue, and writers are furious. John and Craig explore the legal, ethical and philosophical implications of this revelation, our emotional reactions to it, and offer strategies for picking the right hills to die on.
But first, we follow up on the definition of horror vs. thriller, generational narcissism, and young people’s ambition. We also answer listener questions on when to bail on a script and how to approach your first contract.
In our bonus segment for premium members, we dig into the philosophical implications of Craig believing we live in a simulation, and whether that necessarily implies a creator. Woah, man.