The Daily Beast Podcast How Trump Just Proved He's an Idiot: Wolff
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Sep 24, 2025 
Michael Wolff, notable author and journalist famous for his insights on Donald Trump, joins Joanna Coles to dissect a tumultuous week in Trump's orbit. They explore Sam Nunberg's stark assessment of Trump as 'an idiot' and dive into scandals involving Epstein's network. The conversation touches on the troubling effects of Trump's anti-vaccine rhetoric within MAGA, the implications of Charlie Kirk's evangelical revivalism, and Erika Kirk's emotional forgiveness message. Wolff probes the future of Trump's movement amid a sea of discontent and controversies.
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Nunberg's 'He's An Idiot' Moment
- Michael Wolff recounts Sam Nunberg bluntly telling him, “he's an idiot,” which reframed Trump's behavior for him.
- That anecdote underpins Wolff's thesis that Trump often acts from ignorance rather than strategy.
Kirk: Religion Packaged As Politics
- Wolff argues Charlie Kirk functions more as an evangelical religious figure than a political one, repackaging faith as politics.
- This fusion threatens church-state separation and offers Democrats a clear foil if they respond strategically.
Epstein's Pool Photos And The Safe
- Wolff says Epstein kept topless photos of Trump in a safe and he saw those pictures while researching Fire and Fury in 2017–2018.
- He notes uncertainty about the pictures' current whereabouts after the 2019 raid.
