Real Time with Bill Maher Ep. #707: WH Border Czar Tom Homan, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Alex Wagner
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Sep 20, 2025 
Tom Homan, former ICE director and White House border advisor, dives into immigration statistics and the impact of policy changes on national security. Joe Manchin, former U.S. senator, discusses his new book and the importance of bipartisanship in a divided political landscape. Alex Wagner, MSNBC analyst, contributes sharp insights on cancel culture and free speech, highlighting the dangers of political violence and its effect on democratic discourse. The conversation spans critical issues, blending personal anecdotes and pointed analysis.
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Border Security Framing
- Tom Homan argues the U.S. border is "the most secure in history" and ties that to national security gains.
- He claims over 10 million crossings under Biden and warns about 2 million known "gotaways" who were not vetted.
Consequences Deter Smuggling
- Homan stresses consequences deter smuggling and cartel violence, citing child rape and dead migrants he witnessed.
- He argues visible enforcement is necessary to stop cartels profiting off human smuggling.
Prioritize Legal Immigration
- Homan urges prioritizing legal immigration processes to avoid clogging asylum courts and disadvantaging genuine refugees.
- He recommends enforcing laws so people who follow legal routes aren't sidelined by mass illegal entries.
