In this episode Kasia Krzyżanowska talks to Douglas G. Morris, a legal historian and practicing criminal defense attorney with Federal Defenders of New York, about his newest book on Ernst Fraenkel. Fraenkel's most famous work is "The Dual State, but he did not limit himself to scholarly work only. We discuss Fraenkel's resistance that encompassed defending politically persecuted, as well as writing essays on the Nazi state from the legal and practical perspective.