The Rest Is Politics: US 128. Trump vs Congress: Who Really Won the Shutdown?
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Nov 11, 2025 The podcast dives into the fallout from the recent government shutdown, exploring who politically gained or lost—both sides face damage. The hosts debate why Democrats reopened without solid guarantees and discuss the growing distrust among voters. A significant topic is the fragmentation within MAGA, with Trump’s absence creating divides. They also touch on antisemitism in conservative circles, the normalization of extremist views, and how this infighting might present opportunities for Democrats. Expect intriguing insights on political maneuvers and societal implications.
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Booking A $900 Train Ticket
- Katty Kay booked an expensive $900 train ticket when flights seemed at risk during the shutdown.
- That personal scramble convinced her the public would pressure politicians to reopen before Thanksgiving.
Democrats Shifted The Healthcare Narrative
- Democrats controlled the messaging by making healthcare subsidy cuts a central voter concern after 40 days of resistance.
- Polling showed 70% of Americans worried and even 50% of MAGA supporters concerned about subsidy losses.
Shutdowns Damage Incumbent Credibility
- Both parties suffer politically from a prolonged shutdown because incumbents look incompetent to voters.
- The episode predicts challengers will use the failure to govern as a potent 2026 attack line.
