Flying High with Flutter

Flutter Insights: Thanksgiving Edition

Nov 29, 2023

Former Flutter team developer and Google engineer Matt Carroll joins the show. They discuss recent Flutter changes, Dart and Flutter features, competing frameworks, and future projects. They also talk about Flutter going mainstream, Turkey Day experiences, leaving Google, cloning Swift UI in Flutter, functional programming, and the possibility of a Flutter foundation. The episode ends with thoughts on community engagement and future possibilities.

01:31:57

Creator website

Episode guests

Matt Carroll

AI Summary

AI Chapters

Episode notes

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

The departure of key Flutter team members raises concerns about the project's direction and leadership

Flutter's growing popularity brings benefits such as ease of adoption and platform stability for developers

Creating a Swift UI clone in Flutter aims to showcase its capabilities and dispel misconceptions about its limitations

The idea of a Flutter community organization or foundation is explored to ensure a more balanced influence on its future

Deep dives

Discussion about Thanksgiving catch-up and set agenda

In this episode, the host introduces a special guest for their yearly Thanksgiving catch-up. They discuss various topics, including personal updates, audience questions, and the absence of a set agenda.

Introduction

2min

Thanksgiving Food and Gas Ovens

2min

Sudden Departure and Impact on Flutter Project

23min

Discussions on Thanksgiving leftovers and preferences for white meat and dark meat

2min

Exploring the Origins of 'Super Declarative' and Life After Leaving Google

13min

Cloning Swift UI in Flutter

22min

Functional Programming in Flutter and Dart

17min

The Possibility of a Flutter Foundation

8min

Closing thoughts, community engagement, and future possibilities

2min

In this Thanksgiving special of Flying High with Flutter, former Flutter team developer and Google engineer Matt Carroll joins the show. He discusses his journey since departing Google, including launching SuperDeclarative and leading Flutter Bounty Hunters, and shares insights into recent Flutter changes, his workday developing Flutter at Google, new Dart and Flutter features, competing frameworks, and future projects - providing a unique behind-the-scenes look at Flutter development from one of its founding practitioners.

Timecodes:

00:00 - Guest Introduction: Matt Carroll - Ex-Senior Software Engineer at Google, Founder of SuperDeclarative, Chief of Flutter Bounty Hunters

03:33 - Recent events at Flutter: Departure of 18-year-long Flutter Tech Lead Ian Hickson “Hixie”, internal organization

08:41 - Flutter going mainstream?

14:47 - Google Skia, Jetpack Compose, building an Android app UI

23:28 - Flutter bounty hunters project - what is it and how is it going?

28:49 - SuperDeclarative - where does the name come from?

29:54 - Matt's feelings about leaving Google and discussing the investigation that prompted his departure

41:43 - Matt's new project - Translating any Swift UI interfaces into Flutter with ease, and the motivation behind it

56:35 - Matt's preferred way of dealing with State Management

01:03:47 - A glimpse into Matt's typical day

01:04:43 - New features coming to Dart and Flutter, metaprogramming, and functional programming

01:17:10 - Dart as a backend language?

01:21:06 - Possible live coding session in the future?

01:21:50 - Possible Flutter foundation?

01:29:37 - Final thoughts

On the show:

🎙️ Host: Allen Wyma • twitter.com/allenwyma

🎙️ Guest: Matt Carroll • twitter.com/SuprDeclarative

See our social media channels:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FlyingHighWithFlutter/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/fhwflutter

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmL2YRyMphHK87fnyFlotWA

Website: https://flyinghighwithflutter.com

Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/hk/podcast/flying-high-with-flutter/id1562119447?i=1000523147383

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts

Save insights instantly, chat with episodes, and build lasting knowledge - all powered by AI.

Flying High with Flutter

Flutter Insights: Thanksgiving Edition

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Discussion about Thanksgiving catch-up and set agenda

Departure of key members and concerns about leadership

Mainstream adoption and stability of Flutter

Competition with Swift UI and the plan to create a clone

Concerns with Tim's Career Choices

The Speaker's Opinion on State Management

The Need for a Flutter Community Organization

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts