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Gemini 2.0: 20x Cheaper Than GPT-4?! (DEEP DIVE) | Logan Kilpatrick

Feb 11, 2025

Logan Kilpatrick, Senior Project Manager at Google DeepMind, shares insights on the groundbreaking Gemini AI models. He highlights Gemini 2.0's impressive cost-efficiency, making it 20 times cheaper than GPT-4, and its unique multimodal capabilities. The discussion delves into the role of AI agents and their potential to enhance productivity and automate tasks. Kilpatrick also emphasizes advancements in reasoning models, which enable contextual understanding and self-correction, paving the way for more sophisticated AI applications.

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Quick takeaways

Google's Gemini 2.0 models significantly reduce developer costs while enhancing capabilities in multimodal understanding and output generation.

The concept of proactive AI agents is explored, highlighting their potential to automate mundane tasks and improve user efficiency.

Economic challenges in AI infrastructure are discussed, emphasizing the need for cost management solutions to encourage broader adoption among developers.

Deep dives

Overview of Gemini 2.0 Models

The latest Gemini 2.0 models released by Google, including Flash 2.0, Flash Lite, and Flash Pro, showcase significant improvements over previous iterations. These models offer enhanced capabilities while keeping costs for developers lower, with Flash 2.0 costing around ten cents per million tokens, a reduction from its predecessors. The developers are excited by the models' advanced features such as search capabilities and code execution that facilitate the creation of innovative applications. This development aligns with the overarching goal of making AI accessible and empowering developers to create impactful products efficiently.

Intro

5min

Transformative AI: The Rise of Gemini 2.0

6min

Exploring the Future of AI Agents and Their Capabilities

3min

AI Agents and User Engagement

22min

Empowering Custom Software Creation Through AI

3min

Advancements in AI Reasoning Models

7min

Episode 45: How is Google shaping the future of AI with its new Gemini models? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) are joined by Logan Kilpatrick (https://x.com/OfficialLoganK), Senior Project Manager at Google DeepMind.

In this episode, delve into the details of Google's latest AI models, Gemini 2.0, Flash 2.0, and Pro versions, as Logan Kilpatrick breaks down the advancements and unique capabilities that set these models apart. They discuss the cost-efficiency that Gemini brings to the table, the concept of reasoning models, and how agents are paving the way for future AI applications. Whether you're a developer or just intrigued by the progress in AI, this conversation offers insights into what Google's innovations mean for the industry.

Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd

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Show Notes:

(00:00) Gemini 2.0 Launch Excitement
(03:18) Cheaper Flashlight Model Previewed
(08:50) Experiencing Gemini AI in London
(11:11) AI Agents: Need Proactive Models
(14:23) Embracing Inefficiency for Productivity
(17:09) AI Infrastructure and Consumer Impact
(21:31) Imagen 3 Model Update & Insights
(24:18) AI Studio: Free Multimodal Experience
(26:53) AI Production and Infrastructure Challenges
(31:56) Democratizing App Creation Tools
(34:09) DIY Software Solutions
(38:51) Reasoning Models Unlock Contextual Understanding
(42:45) AI Frontier: Risks and Costs
(44:12) AI Updates on Twitter

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Mentions:

Logan Kilpatrick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick/
Google DeepMind: https://deepmind.google/
OpenAI Whisper: https://openai.com/index/whisper/
Replit: https://replit.com/

Check out the episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFBP-k7XIiE

Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw

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Check Out Matt’s Stuff:

• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/

• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/

• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow

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Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/

The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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