After an explosive expose, CNN's CEO Chris Licht was fired by his bosses at Warner Bros Discovery. This came after a year of disappointing ratings and head-scratching programming decisions.

Justin and John sit down with Meg James, senior entertainment industry writer for the Los Angeles Times. Meg helps explain the crisis at CNN, based on her own reporting from the company. They also discuss the macro forces threatening the very existence of cable news.

Read more from Meg here: https://www.latimes.com/people/meg-james