In this deep and vulnerable conversation, neurodivergent therapist Michael MaeRhys joins Frank Lawton to explore the sacred journey of personal transformation. Drawing from his lived experience, therapeutic work, and spiritual influences like Jungian psychology and The Alchemist, Michael shares how many people live on subconscious autopilot—shaped by trauma, cultural expectations, and inherited patterns—until they begin to hear a deeper internal call.

This “summons of the soul,” as he calls it, demands courage, discomfort, and the letting go of egoic identities built for survival and social belonging. Together, Michael and Frank examine how fear keeps people from answering this call, how relational fields—like therapy or secure partnerships—can make space for growth, and how suffering is not something to be avoided but integrated.

Michael also introduces his developing framework of “virtue ecology” and the concept of prohairesis—a consciously chosen, morally aligned life—as key to becoming who we’re meant to be. Whether you're on the edge of change, stuck in comfort, or seeking your next phase of growth, this episode offers a powerful invitation to listen deeply and live courageously.

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#45: Answer the Summons—Courageously Facing Discomfort For Growth with Michael MaeRhys