#168 Work3 Institute Co-Founder Josh Drean: Employment is Dead. Now What? — Part Three

Feb 9, 2025

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Part Three of a 3-part series on Josh Drean. Josh has worn many hats—Harvard MBA, psychology grad, co-founder of Work3 Institute and now, co-author of Employment is Dead (Harvard Business Review Press).

We’re kicking off 2025 with a bang—by declaring employment dead. Yes, you read that right. Josh Drean is here to dismantle the traditional job market, toss outdated HR policies into the digital abyss, and redefine what it means to work in the modern world.

In the Part 1 of a three-part series with Josh, where we dig into why the corporate world’s obsession with employee engagement surveys is as effective as asking your toaster for career advice. Spoiler alert: Most companies don’t actually want honest feedback from employees.

Today's Part 3, where we take the conversation even deeper into the new rules of work.

Key Highlights of Our Interview:

Degrees vs. skills: The battle for relevance – If Josh and Vince, proud Ivy League grads, are questioning the value of degrees, maybe it’s time we all did.
Web3, DAOs, and the digital workplace revolution – Why the next wave of companies won’t have middle managers breathing down your neck.
What happens to companies that don’t adapt? – Hint: They’ll struggle to attract Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and anyone who doesn’t dream of a soul-sucking 9-to-5.

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