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Welcome to Beyond the Speech,

In this episode, I talk to Drew Birnie. He has been beside Mark Manson for over a decade. Even though he won't say it, his research plays a huge role in the content that Mark comes out with. In this episode, we discuss his personal growth, career growth, what it takes to run a huge personal brand, and the messy "behind the scenes"!!

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