
Jacobin Radio Behind the News: DOGE-ism w/ Quinn Slobodian
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Feb 25, 2025 Quinn Slobodian, a Boston University history professor and expert in neoliberalism, dives into the complexities of Trumpism and its implications. He discusses whether Trump embodies neoliberal principles and elaborates on the three strands of DOGE-ism. Anatol Lieven, director of the Eurasia Program at the Quincy Institute, examines Europe's military response to the Ukraine conflict and the tangled dynamics of U.S.-European relations. Together, they unpack the contradictions of modern political discourse and the impact of neoliberalism on governance.
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Crisis of Order
- Trump challenges the post-WWII order, including free trade and NATO, leaving the EU struggling.
- While hypocritical, the US 'rules-based' order masked US power, now openly acknowledged by Trump.
Fragmented Europe
- European responses to the changing global order seem fragmented and lack commitment.
- Despite talk of a European force, countries like Poland and Germany hesitate, highlighting divisions.
Macron's Self-Interest
- Macron's call for integrated European military industries serves French interests, promoting their weapons systems.
- This self-serving approach undermines true integration, as other nations prioritize their industries.







