Welcome to the PoliticsJOE Podcast.

After two-short-TV-shows-worth of chat about the Super Bowl, Oli, Ava, and Ed discuss whether 28 A-levels is too many A-levels.

They also reveal why Michael Gove is scared to come on the podcast after a WhatsApp from Oli, and why Labour U-turned on a promise to spend £28bn a year on green investment.

Presenters: Oli Dugmore, Ava Santina, and Ed Campbell

Producer: Laura Beveridge

Sting design: Chris White

Production: Shawnee Linstead and Finley Talbot-Jones

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Michael Gove is scared to come on this podcast