Catherine Nixey, Britain correspondent for The Economist, discusses Prince Andrew's fall from grace and the monarchy's efforts to shield itself from his legal troubles. Kinley Salmon, Africa correspondent, analyzes the political implications of sanctions against Mali, addressing concerns over security and foreign influences. The conversation also touches on the evolving genre of eco-horror, reflecting humanity's anxieties about the environment. Together, they unpack the complex interplay between royal controversies and geopolitical crises.