Guests Benjamin Partridge (Beef & Dairy Network) and Emma-Lee Moss (fka Emmy the Great) join Judge John Hodgman for a lively discussion. Topics include the bus vs tube debate, the guilt of being late, excitement on a bus ride, gift ideas for skilled home chefs, the underground, settling beef, categorization of meats for tax purposes, litigants and a bear, and the infamous sandwich incident. A fun and entertaining podcast episode recorded live from the London Podcast Festival!
Bell and Tim have conflicting views on whether Bell can be considered a vegetarian if she eats steak.
Bell's decision to become a vegetarian was influenced by her friends who are mostly vegetarians or vegans.
Tim's aversion to new foods, particularly sandwiches, is causing tension in their relationship.
Deep dives
Bell wants to be a vegetarian but still eat steak
Bell, a graphic designer, wants to adopt a vegetarian diet due to concerns about the environmental impact of eating meat. However, she has one exception to her vegetarianism: she still wants to enjoy eating steak, which she considers delicious. Bell's partner, Tim, a hospice chaplain, disagrees with her approach, stating that if she eats steak, she cannot technically be considered a vegetarian. The couple has conflicting views on whether Bell can be a vegetarian while still indulging in steak and whether her decision should be influenced by her friends who are mostly vegetarians or vegans.
Tim disagrees with Bell's claim to be a vegetarian while eating steak
Tim, a hospice chaplain, objects to Bell's claim of being a vegetarian while still wanting to eat steak. He argues that being a vegetarian means abstaining from all meat products, including steak. Tim believes that Bell's desire to be vegetarian due to environmental concerns is admirable, but he maintains that a true vegetarian diet would not include steak as an exception.
Bell's decision to become a vegetarian after a drunk revelation at Martfest
Bell, a graphic designer, made the decision to become a vegetarian after a night of drinking at her friend Martin's festival, Martfest. The festival, which is actually a birthday party with a barbecue, is attended mostly by vegetarians and vegans. In a tipsy state, Bell felt inspired to adopt a vegetarian diet due to concerns about the environmental impact of eating meat. However, she still desires to eat steak, despite the conflicting values between her desire to be vegetarian and her enjoyment of the taste of steak.
Tim's Fear of New Flavors
Tim has a strong aversion to trying new foods, particularly those with mushy textures. This fear, which he refers to as having a 'scaredy mouth,' has led to him refusing to eat certain dishes, including a sandwich that Tamlin claims was the most delicious sandwich ever. Tim's aversion to new flavors has caused tension in their relationship, with Tamlin feeling disappointed and frustrated.
The Unfinished Business of the Sandwich
Ten years ago, Tamlin made a sandwich that she believes to be the best sandwich ever. She urged Tim to try it, but he refused, citing his preference for maintaining his 'good mouth feel' after already eating. This incident has become an ongoing source of conflict and frustration in their relationship. Despite this, Tamlin has never attempted to recreate the sandwich for Tim, fearing rejection once again.
This week's episode was recorded LIVE from the London Podcast Festival! First up is "Undergrounds for Dismissal." Mae likes to ride the bus. Paul likes to ride the tube. Then we hear from Tim and Belle about whether or not Belle can call herself a vegetarian if she eats an occasional steak. Finally, a case about "the best sandwich." Who's right? Who's wrong? With guests Benjamin Partridge (Beef & Dairy Network) and Emma-Lee Moss (fka Emmy the Great)!
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