Cloud Security Podcast Adapting to New Threats, Copilot Risks & The Future of Data (Feat. Matthew Radolec, Varonis)
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Jun 3, 2025 
Matthew Radolec leads systems engineering and incident response at Varonis, passionately dedicated to data protection. He delves into the surge of AI-driven phishing and the risks posed by tools like Copilot. The conversation highlights the alarming statistic that 86% of attacks stem from credential misuse and discusses the rising threat of AI-powered social engineering. Radolec emphasizes the critical need for robust access management and proactive measures in a landscape increasingly dominated by AI, ensuring data integrity amidst evolving challenges.
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Credential Misuse Dominates Attacks
- Credential misuse dominates attacks with 86% involving stolen or reused credentials.
- Agentic AI tools and copilots magnify insider threat risks by enabling easier data exfiltration.
AI-Powered Conversational Bait
- Attackers use AI-driven conversational bait to build trust before launching phishing attacks.
- Bots can simulate human conversation and research victims using AI models like ChatGPT.
Copilot Reveals Sensitive Data
- Organizations discover sensitive data like salaries and M&A details accessible via Copilot during early adoption pilots.
- Despite risks, many businesses see huge operational benefits from AI tools in note-taking and development.