Prof. Dr. Dirk Baecker is a sociologist and holds senior professorship for organization theory and theory of society at Zeppelin University in Friedrichshafen at Lake Constance. He studied systems theory with Niklas Luhmann.

He has been recognized as one of the most prominent German sociologists with important works on cultural theory, sociological theory, economic sociology and organizational sociology. He is the author of numerous books, including KATJEKTE, published at Merve.

In this conversation we talk about Luhmanns system theory and his media theory in context of Internet, digitalization and AI as well as how we can meaningfully differentiate between construction of media as a system property and fake news.