"Did you seriously just say hitherto?"

(00:00) Holley and Smith start with Jamarr Chase and the Bengals impressive win over the Ravens 

(17:00) The brothers wonder if the Bengals could emerge as AFC playoff contenders after what they've done so far 

(32:00) Charles Robinson joins the show to help make sense of swirling Deshaun Watson trade rumors and which hold weight 

(49:00) We welcome back Charles to weigh in on Tomlin to USC scenarios and what it would take for him to leave the Steelers

(1:10:00) Holley and Smith revisit the Bengals storyline and the old narrative of 'they don't want to win'

(1:25:00) The latest news from the Ben Simmons drama in Philly

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