Ep 100: Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries of Refinery29 on What They've Learned Two Years Later

"The Partners - Revisited".

This is the 100th episode of ‘Fearless Creative Leadership’.

So what stands out 100 episodes in?  What makes fearless creative leaders successful? If you’ve listened to even a few of these conversations you’ll know there are many themes. But, two show up over and over again.

The best leaders are hopeful.

And the best leaders listen. 

And that’s a real change in how the role of leadership has been defined for the last fifty years.  

In this episode, I sit down with my guests from Episode 1 - Justin Stefano and Philippe von Borries, the founders of Refinery29 - about what they've learned in the two years since our first conversation. 

Note: We talk about Zappos management structure and philosophy. It's called Holocracy.