The Rollup Rollup TV: Money Moves Fast EP #3 & zkVerify
Sep 30, 2025
Ran Goldie, VP of Payments at Fireblocks, dives into the nuances of stablecoin payments and the challenges facing banks in adopting blockchain technology. He highlights the immense $200B monthly stablecoin flows, driven by B2B cross-border payments and payroll. Meanwhile, John Camerado, founder of ZK Verify, shares insights about their mainnet launch, discussing ZK proofs in gaming and how they enable trustless verification in payments and trading. Together, they illuminate the future of digital payments and verification on decentralized networks.
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Blockchain As A Payments Rail
- Fireblocks positions blockchain as another payments rail that incumbents must connect to, like Fed wires or SWIFT.
- Running the infrastructure and partner catalog lets Fireblocks offer seamless on/off ramps and trusted counterparty flows.
Network Catalog Solves LastโMile Friction
- Fireblocks built a network catalog connecting institutions and local offโramps to let clients choose partners programmatically.
- That network trust and normalized reconciliation data reduces onboarding friction across 100+ countries.
Use Fireblocks As Middleware
- Treat Fireblocks as middleware, not a blockchain or token layer; integrate via its API and workspace.
- Use it to access multiple stablecoins and partners programmatically while preserving enterprise security.