The height of the last bull run was when MakerDAO cofounder Rune Christensen felt most disillusioned by DeFi and DAOs. “I didn’t even see how Maker was going to survive,” Christensen tells Laura Shin in the latest episode of Unchained. Now Christensen is leading an effort to help DAOs escape their trough of disillusionment. He says the ambitious “Endgame Plan” for MakerDAO seeks to overcome “the central issue of voter apathy.” Will it work or are DAOs doomed to fail?

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Show highlights:

the disillusionment that comes with the growth of DAOs and the need for a new approach
Rune’s insights into the challenges that most DAOs face
how Maker plans to implement alignment engineering through tools, gamification, and incentives
what each phase of Maker’s “Endgame Plan” seeks to accomplish
the strategy behind Maker’s rebranding, including the launch of new tokens while maintaining MKR and DAI
the importance of governance boundaries in ensuring that participants follow the rules and contribute constructively
the goal to reach a state of ossification and certainty, similar to Bitcoin
the challenges of renaming tokens and the decision to keep the original brands
why Rune believes that Phase 2 of the Endgame Plan will change the industry
how SubDAOs will work to align incentives, improve the organization, and avoid ponzi schemes
what Maker’s “Atlas” is and how it intends to set boundaries
how Maker plans to use artificial intelligence
the role of delegates in the DAO and how users choose them
the difference between “dovish” and “hawkish” governance
what the motivation was for launching the Spark lending protocol
why the DAI Savings Rate (DSR) is not offered to American investors and Rune’s take on DeFi regulation
why South Korea and Japan are the best crypto environments in the world, according to Rune
whether Maker should be doing more to mitigate the influence of “whales,” given that Rune owns about 10% of the MKR supply

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Guest:

Rune Christensen, Cofounder of MakerDAO
Previous appearances on Unchained:
Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 1: How to Keep a Crypto-Collateralized Stablecoin Afloat
Rune Christensen of MakerDAO Part 2: How Dai Stayed at $1 While ETH Crashed From $1,400 to $85
The Chopping Block: How to Manage MakerDAO, With Hasu and Rune
Rune Christensen of MakerDao on Its $15 Million From Andreessen Horowitz
Why It's so Hard to Keep Stablecoins Stable

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