Senator Schatz on How Democrats Should Talk About Climate Change

Hawaii may be a land of renowned natural beauty, but it is the most oil-dependent state in the United States and is on the front lines of climate change. Senator Brian Schatz, Democrat of Hawaii, discussed the challenges of turning climate mitigation ambitions into durable policy on the state and national levels and what it takes to build political will in a divided Congress.

He also said that his party needed to change the way it talked about climate change if Democrats hoped to win over new voters.

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