

Molly Worthen, "Spellbound: How Charisma Shaped American History from the Puritans to Donald Trump" (Random House, 2025)
Sep 6, 2025
Molly Worthen, a history professor at UNC Chapel Hill and freelance journalist, dives into the allure of charisma in American history. She explores how leaders from the Puritans to Donald Trump shaped societal narratives through compelling engagement. The discussion highlights the link between charismatic figures and cultural crises, revealing the tension between inspiration and manipulation. Worthen also dissects the evolution of charisma from religious leaders to modern icons, questioning the sustainability of this powerful phenomenon in today's world.
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Charisma Is Storytelling That Activates
- Charisma is a leader's ability to invite followers into a new, activating narrative about their role in a larger story.
- That narrative mixes empowerment with security, making followers feel both agentic and part of a bigger movement.
Charisma's Roots Are Theological
- The theological origin of charisma ties it to supernatural gifts and communal religious experience in the New Testament.
- That religious meaning later informs political charisma and explains why charismatic leaders feel like sources of transcendent purpose.
Why The Book Limits Its Scope
- Molly Worthen recounts limiting her book to religion and politics to keep the project manageable and focused.
- She notes musicians can have spiritual effects but distinguishes celebrity's passive fan experience from political charisma.