Defense in Depth Where are We Struggling with Zero Trust
Aug 14, 2025
Rob Allen, Chief Product Officer at ThreatLocker, discusses the challenges of implementing Zero Trust security. He highlights how legacy infrastructure hinders progress and the complexity of shifting to new security models. The conversation also touches on the human factors involved, underscoring the need for user-friendly security to address resistance. Allen emphasizes that Zero Trust isn't a one-time fix but a transformative mindset that balances protection with organizational needs.
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Principles Outpace Practice
- Zero trust is widely embraced in principle but implementation lags due to historical and practical barriers.
- The gap exists because organizations must shift long-standing paradigms, not just install tools.
Hard Work Won't Stop Progress
- Rob argued that difficulty isn't a reason to avoid big security changes, citing historic feats as examples.
- He noted ThreatLocker's own work shows hard projects can be made manageable for customers.
Chasing Vintage Windows For Tests
- Rob described building an XP/2003-compatible ThreatLocker agent because customers still run legacy systems.
- He explained the absurd effort to run an XP VM in modern cloud environments for testing.