On The Brink with Castle Island Ben Ward & Steven Pack (RockSolid) on DeFi Vaults (EP.671)
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Oct 1, 2025 In this conversation, Ben Ward and Steven Pack, co-founders of RockSolid, dive into the fascinating world of DeFi vaults. Steven shares insights on RockSolid's origins and the value of liquid staking tokens through DeFi integrations. Ben highlights the intricate design of vaults and their appeal to institutional demand. They explore how permissionless strategies hold both tremendous potential and risks, and discuss the evolving landscape of Ethereum finance. Their vision suggests that vaults might soon become essential financial infrastructure.
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Building Utility For Rocket Pool Holders
- RockSolid started to solve Rocket Pool's missing DeFi integrations by offering a single-click Liquid Vault for RETH.
- The founders built the product to increase utility and DeFi participation for Rocket Pool token holders.
Utility Beats APR For LST Adoption
- LST adoption depends more on DeFi utility and integrations than on marginal APR differences.
- Making an LST usable across DeFi stacks drives demand more than slightly higher staking yields.
From Discord Spreadsheets To A Product
- Ben and Steve traced Rocket Pool's gap to Lido to a lack of integration and simple user paths.
- The community often directed new users to a spreadsheet, so they built a better single-click solution.