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Charlie Kirk on Crime, the Horrific Charlotte Stabbing, and the Wrong Lesson About Trump Scandals

Sep 9, 2025
Charlie Kirk, Founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and host of The Charlie Kirk Show, dives deep into the American crime crisis, spotlighting the shocking stabbing incident in Charlotte. He critiques generational divides over wealth and relationships, and firmly responds to Van Jones’ remarks about his values. Kirk argues for stricter criminal justice reforms while discussing the cultural disparities affecting crime perception in the U.S. He also shares an unexpected reason for wanting to attend a rally, blending insight and levity in a complex political landscape.
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ADVICE

Preempt Opposition Research Proactively

  • Hire an opposition research team and proactively surface your own vulnerabilities before rivals do.
  • Cooperate fully with that team and make your records available to prevent surprise revelations during a campaign.
ANECDOTE

Seoul Morning Walk Reveals High-Trust Order

  • Charlie Kirk described walking Seoul at 5 a.m. and noticing extreme cleanliness, order, and low crime.
  • He contrasted that high-trust society with U.S. dynamism and wished U.S. cities were similarly orderly.
INSIGHT

Stabbing Highlights Justice Reform Failure

  • Charlie Kirk calls the Charlotte subway stabbing emblematic of a failed criminal-justice reform era.
  • He argues repeat offenders and lenient policies have put innocent people at greater risk.
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