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Episode 2543: Edward Luce on the Life of Zbigniew Brzezinski

May 23, 2025
Edward Luce, U.S. national editor at the Financial Times and author of 'Zbig,' dives into the life of Zbigniew Brzezinski. He describes Brzezinski's remarkable foresight regarding the Soviet collapse and his strategic alliances, notably with Pope John Paul II to stave off Soviet threats in Eastern Europe. Luce also discusses Brzezinski's unique blend of hard and soft power, his critiques of American hubris post-Cold War, and his belief in meritocracy despite his aristocratic roots, painting a complex picture of a pivotal foreign policy figure.
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INSIGHT

Meritocracy of Intellect

  • Brzezinski believed in an aristocracy of intellect and gave rigorous evaluations, awarding only one A per class.
  • He was impatient with fools and valued intellectual quality over political views.
ADVICE

Learn Adversaries' Languages

  • To understand global power dynamics, study adversaries deeply including their ideologies and motives.
  • Brzezinski emphasized learning foreign languages and dreaming in them to reveal true intentions.
INSIGHT

Critic of Rollback and Détente

  • Brzezinski opposed both reckless rollback strategies and Kissinger's détente policy.
  • He saw détente as cover for Soviet third world revolution adventurism, making it too costly to maintain.
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