The Bill Simmons Podcast OKC’s Better, Jokic Isn’t Real, a Clippers Swoon, and Detroit’s Rise With Tim Legler, Plus Week 11 Picks With Joe House and Billy Gil
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Nov 14, 2025 
Tim Legler, a former NBA player and now a savvy analyst, joins to discuss the Oklahoma City Thunder's impressive gameplay and their defensive identity, alongside Nikola Jokic's resurgence and the floundering Clippers. The conversation pivots to surprising teams like the emerging Detroit Pistons. Later, Joe House and newcomer Billy Gil dive into NFL trends, tackle the Dolphins' recent struggles, and highlight alternate uniform betting strategies. Their discussions provide a humorous and insightful look at both the NBA and NFL landscapes.
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OKC's Defensive Edge Separates Them
- The Oklahoma City Thunder currently sit on a different shelf from most NBA teams due to elite, relentless defense and roster depth.
- Their defensive intensity forces opponents into passive offenses and wears teams down over a game.
Courtside Dinner With Lakers Staff
- Tim Legler recounts being at dinner and spotting the Lakers' entire coaching staff before OKC dismantled them.
- That night highlighted how OKC's full-game defensive intensity can dismantle top offenses quickly.
Judge Breakouts By Role Fit And Consistency
- When evaluating breakout players, judge consistent shot selection and balance, not one-off hot games.
- Look for players getting steady minutes in roles that fit team spacing and pace before calling them stars.