3/24/25 Jesse Trentadue and Richard Booth on the OKC Bombing Cover-Up
Mar 27, 2025
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Jesse Trentadue, a relentless lawyer seeking justice for his brother's death tied to the Oklahoma City bombing, teams up with Richard Booth, an independent journalist focused on unveiling the bombing's discrepancies. They dive into the cover-up surrounding the bombing, discussing evidence of government involvement and the mysterious death of Pat Conn. With insights on investigative journalism and the convoluted narratives, they highlight the urgency of seeking truth in historical injustices. Their exploration reveals a tangled web of government actions and unanswered questions.
Jesse Trentadue shares his relentless pursuit for justice regarding his brother's wrongful death linked to the OKC bombing investigation.
Richard Booth highlights the discrepancies between witness testimonies and the official narrative, raising concerns over potential government cover-ups.
The podcast discusses the influence of FBI operations on radical groups that may have indirectly facilitated the conditions for the Oklahoma City bombing.
Current investigative journalism is rekindling interest in the inconsistencies of the OKC bombing case, underscoring the demand for truth and accountability.
Deep dives
Introduction of Key Guests and Historical Context
The episode presents Jesse Trinidue and Richard Booth, who play pivotal roles in uncovering the truth behind the Oklahoma City bombing. Jesse shares his personal story of loss, relating to the murder of his brother, Kenneth Trinidue, who was wrongly implicated in the bombing. Richard Booth is introduced as an expert on the Oklahoma City bombing, maintaining a crucial archive of related documents. Together, they delve into the mysteries and controversies surrounding the bombing and the motivations behind the government's responses.
Legal Battles and Witness Tampering
Jesse discusses the lengthy legal battles he has fought since his brother's death, including a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit that has lasted years. His attempts to uncover information regarding witness tampering reveal a troubling pattern: numerous witnesses who could offer insight into his brother's case were threatened by the FBI. This reflection on the challenges he has faced highlights the lengths to which Jesse has gone to seek justice and transparency. The ongoing sealed investigation continues to complicate his efforts, causing frustration and concern over potential government misconduct.
The Role of Roger Charles
Roger Charles, a renowned journalist and investigator, is highlighted for his contributions to the investigation. Jesse recounts Roger's thorough documentation and research, which played a vital role in understanding the bombing's broader implications. Roger's ties to various key individuals, including Timothy McVeigh's defense team, demonstrate his deep involvement in uncovering the truth. His notes and findings have significantly influenced Jesse's ongoing quest for justice regarding Kenneth's wrongful fate.
Witness Accounts and Evidence of Conspiracy
The podcast underscores multiple witness accounts contradicting the official narrative; at least 24 witnesses claimed to have seen Timothy McVeigh with another individual during the bombing. This evidence raises questions about the government's insistence that 'John Doe 2' did not exist, highlighting potential cover-ups in the investigation. The discussion emphasizes how mainstream media reports from the immediate aftermath of the bombing already indicated the involvement of multiple individuals in the attack. Jesse points out that the suppression of this information suggests a concerted effort by authorities to control the narrative surrounding the event.
Connections to Radical Groups and Pat Con Operations
Jesse and Richard explore the implications of the FBI's PATCON operations, designed to infiltrate and monitor radical right-wing groups, which may have inadvertently allowed extremist actions to proliferate. Andy Strasmeyer, a central figure in the podcast, is implicated as a government informant and provocateur within these groups, potentially influencing violent acts. The discussion elaborates on how Strasmeyer’s actions and those of others may have contributed to the conditions that led to the Oklahoma City bombing. This context reinforces suspicions that certain government operations may have played a role in the disaster rather than purely preventive measures.
Ongoing Investigations and the Role of Media
The episode provides updates on ongoing investigations related to Kenneth Trinidue and the Oklahoma City bombing, emphasizing the significant role of investigative journalism. Jesse highlights recent reports by major news outlets that have started to shed light on the inconsistencies and unanswered questions surrounding the bombing case. This resurgence of media interest is encouraging for those seeking justice and accountability. The involvement of journalists, despite challenges from federal institutions, underscores the importance of public awareness and the demand for truth in high-stakes situations.
Insights from Timothy McVeigh's Perspective
Timothy McVeigh's perspective, conveyed through correspondences with Jesse, raises further questions about his motivations and connections to the events leading up to the bombing. McVeigh reportedly believed that Kenneth Trinidue was mistaken for Richard Guthrie, linking his case to the bombing narrative. These insights complicate the understanding of individual agency in the bombing and suggest puppet-like dynamics influenced by larger governmental operations and mistreatment. This perspective challenges listeners to consider the broader implications of government surveillance and manipulation.
Repercussions and Implications of the Cover-Up
The discussion concludes with an emphasis on the alarming repercussions of covering up the truth surrounding the Oklahoma City bombing and the events leading to it. Jesse expresses concern that the reluctance to investigate fully acknowledges fundamental issues related to justice and accountability. Richard and Jesse assert that upcoming releases of books and documentaries will play a critical role in keeping the conversation alive and pushing for answers. They encourage listeners to stay informed and involved to ensure that these stories are not forgotten.
Jesse Trentadue returns to the show after a long hiatus for a deep dive on the Oklahoma City bombing with Scott and Richard Booth. The three explore what we know about what happened, how it differs from the official narrative and what most likely explains the gaps in our knowledge.
Richard Booth is the Glenn D. Wilburn Fellow at the Libertarian Institute and an independent citizen journalist and member of the Constitution First Amendment Press Association (CFAPA). You can find Richard’s journalism at The Libertarian Institute, and on his Substack. Follow him on Twitter @booth_okc
Jesse Trentadue is a lawyer and the brother of Kenneth “Kenny” Trentadue, who Jesse believes was killed by police after being mistaken for Timothy McVeigh’s accomplice in the Oklahoma City Bombing. Jesse is on a decades-long quest to seek justice for his brother’s death and unveil what really happened in the days and weeks surrounding the April 19, 1995 attack.
