Responding to the "Cessationist" Documentary - Part #9
Dec 14, 2023
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In this podcast, the hosts discuss the charismatic vs cessationist debate, the interpretation of speaking in tongues, the importance of love in the church, the purpose of the gift of tongues, the concept of healing and God's sovereignty, and the differences between cessationists and continuationists.
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Quick takeaways
The purpose of the gift of healing is not to prove skeptics wrong, but to serve God and bring about his healing in individuals.
The mention of tongues of angels in scripture is a form of hyperbole, emphasizing the importance of love and the use of spiritual gifts.
Demanding proof for the gift of healing reveals a lack of humility and a misunderstanding of spiritual gifts, overlooking the trust and faith required in their proper use.
Deep dives
The Gift of Healing: Understanding the Purpose and Confidence in God
The belief that the gift of healing should be proven through clearing out a hospital ward is misguided. Jesus and the Holy Spirit do not owe anyone proof of their power. Demanding a sign is rooted in pride and lacks trust in the goodness and character of God. The purpose of the gift of healing is not to satisfy the skepticism of others but to serve God and bring about his healing in individuals. Asking for proof reveals a lack of humility and a misunderstanding of the nature of spiritual gifts.
Tongues of Angels: Exploring the Possibilities and Biblical Hyperbole
The mention of tongues of angels in scripture is a form of hyperbole used by the apostle Paul to emphasize the importance of love and the use of spiritual gifts. While there is no definitive answer as to whether tongues of angels actually exist, it is possible that tongues can represent heavenly languages or unknown human languages. The focus should be on the purpose of tongues, which is primarily prayer and communication with God. The exact nature and interpretation of tongues are open to theological speculation, but the overarching message is that love should guide the use of spiritual gifts.
Responding to Demands for Proof in Healing Gifts
Challenging the idea that those with the gift of healing should prove it by clearing out hospital wards, is rooted in a prideful mindset that seeks to test God. The demand for proof is not a sign of trust or confidence in God's goodness and character. Miracles and healing are not performed to satisfy skeptics, but to serve God and bring about his purposes. Demanding proof overlooks the humility, faith, and trust required to properly understand and use spiritual gifts.
Misuse of Matthew 6: Argument against tongues
The podcast discusses the misuse of Matthew 6 to argue against the practice of speaking in tongues. The speaker argues that Matthew 6 is not about intelligibility and unintelligibility, but rather emphasizes the Pharisees' desire to be seen and impress others. They highlight the need for interpretation when practicing the gift of tongues and condemn the babbling and repetition that occurs in some charismatic circles. They conclude that using Matthew 6 to argue against tongues is a misinterpretation of the scripture.
Forbidding tongues and the nature of gifts
The podcast addresses the misconception that no pastor has ever forbidden people to speak in tongues and argues that the verse about not forbidding tongues does not refer to incoherent babbling. They explain that the gift of tongues is not at will and that even the apostles experienced limitations in their ability to heal. They point out inconsistencies in the cessationist argument and highlight the importance of understanding the biblical definition of the gifts and the co-labor between God and man. They invite discussion and engagement with the arguments presented.
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