Gábor Scheiring, a former Hungarian parliament member and assistant professor at Georgetown, discusses the striking parallels between Viktor Orbán’s regime and Donald Trump’s approach to governance. He dives into the erosion of democracy in Hungary and how this can inform resistance efforts in the U.S. Scheiring highlights economic discontent and the political landscape, stressing the need for meaningful connections with citizens to protect democratic values. His insights serve as a cautionary tale for American politics today.
Gábor Scheiring highlights the dangers of political discontent allowing leaders like Orbán to consolidate power, paralleling U.S. sentiments today.
The responsibility to defend democracy rests with the people, necessitating economic policies that resonate with the hardships faced by citizens.
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Lessons from Hungary's Political Landscape
The conversation features insights from Gabor Schering, a former Hungarian politician, who discusses the dramatic changes in Hungary under Viktor Orban's leadership. He describes how Orban consolidated power by dismantling democratic safeguards, altering electoral laws, and restructuring the judicial system. Schering draws parallels between the political discontent in Hungary and the current political climate in the United States, suggesting that just as disillusionment allowed Orban to rise, similar sentiments could be exploited in the U.S. today. He emphasizes that the responsibility of defending democracy lies with the people and that without addressing the economic concerns of the working class, democracy may face significant challenges.
The Importance of Responsive Political Strategies
Schering highlights the failures of Hungary's liberal political class, which could not effectively address the needs of lower-income citizens, leading to Orban's rise. He reflects on his own political efforts during Orban's ascendance, including attempts to draw attention to rising autocracy through protests and alternative budget proposals. The frustration of not being able to create a democratic majority illustrates the disconnect between the ruling elites and the populace. He suggests that successful opposition must prioritize inclusive economic policies that resonate with the hardships citizens face, thereby creating a more compelling political narrative.
Donald Trump has a lot of similarities—and something of a bromance—with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. And those who wish to resist Trump’s Orbán-like, right-wing strongman tendencies could learn something from the resistance in Hungary.
Guest: Gábor Scheiring, former member of the Hungarian parliament and assistant professor of comparative politics at Georgetown University Qatar.
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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.