That's not something you expect to hear in an interview. But the Harvard historian and author of All That She Carried, Tiya Miles did not hesitate to say these words to IDEAS host, Nahlah Ayed. What prompted the bold statement comes down to a question — seemingly for Miles the perfect one to ask.

Their conversation resonated with many listeners, including a potter in Australia who shares how this story sustains him after the loss of his wife. Also in this podcast, we find out how IDEAS inspires everything from sonnets, to art, and to recreating historic feasts.

*This is the second episode in our 60th anniversary series. There's more to listen to here:

How an IDEAS episode on traffic changed a doctor's practice

CBC Massey Lecturers reveal how the talks changed them

How IDEAS saved a listener from sending a regrettable email

The best — and worst — ideas of the last six decades

MARKED | Ashlyn Portero