This is the first of a series of talks where we host two luminaries in one conversation. Garry from the West Coast and Rudy from the East Coast and both preeminent scientists and explorers in their field. This is the first meeting between the two and as expected, they go big. Fast. We talk the purpose of the universe, non human intelligence, the question of God, speciation, artificial intelligence, “extranormal”, the re-wiring of the brain, horse whispering, spiralling brain waves, orbs, inside out black hole, electric bath. And, we end this bounty of plenty with a definition from each about the secret of living an interesting life.

Strap yourselves in.

Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:09 Explaining the Unexplained 00:06:22 What is "God" and the Universe? 00:11:31 Non-Human Intelligence 00:15:07 Explaining UAP and NHI Sightings 00:25:49 The Future of Human Evolution 00:29:26 The Deep State and Being Bullied Into Silence 00:35:55 "Not Are They Here, But Could They Get Here?" 00:38:44 What the Government is Hiding 00:52:13 How Was the First Universe Created 01:00:37 Garry's Out Of Body Experience

For earlier one-on-one episodes with Garry and with Rudy, see ep 179 , 186, 187, 192, 195, 196. 

See also Russell Targ (ep 80), Avi Loeb (ep 105), Diana Pasulka (ep142), Mary Rodwell (ep149), Rey Hernandez (ep 153,154).

Garry:

• Bio: https://med.stanford.edu/profiles/garry-nolan
• SOL Foundation: https://thesolfoundation.org/
• YouTube:
• SOL Foundation Talk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UW1jyN2o8A
• Interview with Ross Coulthart: https://youtu.be/XR0JtbuLhPo?si=OHvvhH4PoJcK1OUT
• SALT Talk: https://youtu.be/e2DqdOw6Uy4?si=TgmtKiYBNRoW96pd
• X: @garrynolan

Rudy:

• Center for Astrophysics – https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/
• Journal of Cosmology – https://thejournalofcosmology.com/About.html
• Personal website – http://www.rudyschild.com/
• List of Published papers – (via The SAO Astrophysics Data System)
• CCRI (Consciousness & Contact Research Institute) – https://agreaterreality.com/
• Book (co-Author with Suzy Hansen) – Dual Soul Connection: The Alien Agenda for Human Advancement: (via Amazon)
• Book: Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence – (via Amazon)
• Edgar Mitchell Book: The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut’s Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds – (via Amazon)
• NASA – Stratospheric Observatory For Infrared Astronomy “SOFIA” – https://science.nasa.gov/mission/sofia/