Bulwark Takes Unearthed Fox Footage Blows Up Hegseth’s Court Martial Claims (w/ Andrew Kaczynski)
Dec 9, 2025
In this engaging discussion, investigative reporter Andrew Kaczynski, known for his expertise in archival research, delves into the implications of Pete Hegseth's past comments on military law. Kaczynski reveals how Hegseth defended troops against unlawful orders in 2016, contrasting sharply with his current critiques of Democrats. The duo examines the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the significance of holding politicians accountable for their words. Kaczynski also shares insights on his research methods and the broader impact of exposing political hypocrisy.
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Unlawful Orders Are Already Forbidden
- The Uniform Code of Military Justice already states troops must not follow unlawful orders.
- Andrew Kaczynski emphasizes that reminding troops of this is simply stating established law, not a radical claim.
Hegseth Defended Troops Refusing Illegal Orders
- Andrew Kaczynski found multiple 2016 clips of Pete Hegseth criticizing Donald Trump and saying the military would not follow illegal orders.
- Those clips show Hegseth defended servicemembers who refuse unlawful commands when Trump proposed extreme measures.
Megyn Kelly Clip Shows Hegseth Warning
- Kaczynski surfaced a Megyn Kelly appearance where Hegseth called Trump an 'armchair tough guy' and warned about ambiguity for the military.
- Hegseth warned that promises to override law would create confusion about whether orders must be followed.